In 2019 top Government of Ontario scientists reported on the harmful effect of 5G, calling for the moratorium on this technology in the province. Now this technology is pushed on our children

A 40-min pre-covid video recording important to watch to better understand how scientists vs the government work and what is happening in the world and Canada now.

UPDATE (May 2023):

Two full length documentaries have been added at the bottom of this article

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An important conference was held in 2019 organized by top Government of Ontario scientists on the harmful effect of 5G, calling for the moratorium on this technology in the province.

What happened after this conference - all of you know. - Nothing happened.

There was no covid, no pandemic declared, no mandatory vaccination back then yet. But what is remarkable, the conference speakers raise concerns, even talk the language as the one that made highlights in year 2022 - “informed consent”, “vast amount of scientific evidence that is not listened to”, “severe adverse effects”, “long-term health effects”, “no political will” etc.

From one of the speaker’s comments, it appears that this press-conference happened in 2019. It also appears that it was not covered by official media. Nothing about it was found on YouTube. Only on Bitchut, from where it was re-recorded.

While the issues discussed at this conference affect directly the health of millions of Canadians, I could not find anything about this conference or the issues of concern discussed there anywhere on CBC. Don’t you find it strange?

I found however a portal that is dedicated to raising the awareness about the harmful affect of 5G and that also provides additional information to help Canadians the further deployment of this technology: https://action4canada.com/5g-technology/

Take time to watch this video in its entirety. - You will be surprised how much is known about the subject, and yet not spoken about anywhere in main stream media.

The transcript from video is provided below - thanks to YouTube automated caption generation technology - with highlights (in bold) in case you need to quote any of these messages anywhere. Please share and discuss them with others, including MPs, MPPs, your doctors and your children teachers.

Transcript (with highlights)

Frank Clegg:

I'd like to thank you for taking time out of your busy schedules to join us this afternoon. my name is Frank Clegg and I'm the CEO of Canadians for safe technology. I've worked in the technology sector my whole career including 14 years as the president of Microsoft Canada.

the past five years I volunteered with C4 St working with all levels of government to create healthier communities across Canada. we do this by presenting to them the latest science about the health effects of microwave radiation from wireless devices.

when I started in this business almost no one outside the military was exposed to microwave radiation. today almost everyone is infected and from the moment of conception onwards.

I'm here to introduce you to an expert panel including a doctor and scientist who have a warning about the coming health conditions that are predicted to rise if we are blindly accept the next generation of 5G Wireless technology

we are joining scientific researchers in 41 other countries including the US and the UK who are warning that 5G is going to pose a massive public health risk

it's not been made clear to the public that 5G won't just be another number and letter on your cell phone. it requires an entirely new infrastructure of thousands of small cellular antennas to be erected throughout cities where it's going to be installed

all of our speakers today have delivered expert testimony to the Parliamentary health committee in Ottawa on the subject of Wireless radiation and human health, but so far the only public discourse on 5G as as has has been whether we should let a Chinese company install it or not.

today we are here to change the conversation to the predictable and probable health risks that 5G Wireless is likely to bring

I'll begin by introducing Dr Rina Bray. Dr Bray is trained as a chemical engineer and doctor of Medicine with master's degrees in addiction toxicology and Public Health. she is a social professor in the department of family and Community medicine with a cross appointment to the dalianah School of Public Health at the University of Toronto. she is the medical director of the provincial environment health clinic at Women's College Hospital to bring…

Dr Rina Bray:

thank you, over the past 15 years at our provincial environmental health clinic we have been assessing an increasing number of vulnerable patients who have been referred from across Ontario including but not limited to Toronto Hamilton London Windsor Ottawa Sudbury Thunder Bay and Timmins and those who suffer from the adverse effects brought on by electromagnetic exposures most commonly to non-ionizing radio frequency radiation . these sources include cell phones, Wi-Fi,, an increasing number of wireless radiation emitting consumer devices and cellular communication Towers.

more and more doctors are becoming aware of this condition, as demonstrated by the rise in the number of referrals the most prevalent symptoms include headache fatigue, decreased ability to concentrate tinnitus irritability and insomnia impacts on the heart and the nervous system are also a great concern because of these symptoms

some people have to have been forced to quit their jobs or have had to take time off work or experienced reduced productivity at the environmental health clinic

we help them to identify the cause of their symptoms and educate them in order to minimize exposures and therefore recover more readily

we see people from all walks of life, including teachers, students, government workers and business people. we are concerned that the upcoming introduction of 5G will significantly increase the proximity and extent of exposure to microwave radiation in ontarians. we predict that the number of people who develop the symptoms I just mentioned will arise in the places where 5G is first installed

tomorrow on May 31st Women's College Hospital in Toronto will host a full day Symposium for healthcare Professor providers across Ontario to discuss the science behind the health effects of Wireless radiation and to show Healthcare Providers how to identify and manage the increasing number of people suffering from it.

it is important to explain today what 5G means to people who aren't yet sensitive to microwave radiation or maybe aren't aware that they are sensitive

many more people have symptoms that they don't know how to attribute to wireless radiation exposure.

Frank Clegg:

I'd like to introduce Van de Havas to explain the elevated risks associated with wireless 5G. Dr Havas is a professor emeritus at Trent University. in the early days of her career Dr Havas informed all levels of government about acid rain before the politicians understood how dangerous it was

her more recent work was linked to microwaves from cell phones and Wi-Fi to hard irregularities including tachycardia. Dr Havas is internationally recognized for her research in this field she has written almost 200 Publications and has lectured at universities and medical conferences in 30 countries

most recently she has been researching the public health implications of 5

Dr Havas:

Dr Harris thank you very much Frank

5G the fifth generation technology and The Internet of Things promises faster download speeds and the ability to have such conveniences as driverless cars and host of applications most of us haven't even dreamed of

the Toronto Montreal Corridor will be one of the early test sites in Canada, and millions of people are going to be exposed to a new type of radiation called millimeter waves.

these are an integral part of the 5G technology this will bring with it an additional layer of microwave exposure

there will be thousands of new antennas installed. small cell antennas could be placed as close as every third Hydro pole, and local planning authorities and people who live in these areas will have absolutely no say regarding their deployment with the Telecom.

industry has not mentioned in all of the advertising about 5G is that these are new frequencies that have been never tested for their long-term biological and health effects.

millimeter waves are currently being used in airport scanners and by the U.S military as a form of crowd control. the name of that system is called the “active denial system”.

at high intensities, these waves cause intense heat and pain, since sweat glands on the surface of our skin act like miniature antennas at lower frequency

scientists are predicting damage to eyes, loss of insect populations, which are already declining antibiotic resistance in bacteria and physiological effects on the nervous system and on the immune system living in a city like Toronto could become very difficult for a lot of people when I was younger in researching acid rain there was very little microwave exposure except near airports in your radar installations because there is no natural generation of it on Earth and what comes from outer space is weak levels of microwave radiation today are trillions of times higher than they were even 50 years ago 5G transmitters will radiate 24 hours a day and so close to homes it will be difficult if not impossible to avoid constant exposure and this is in addition to what we are already exposed to with cell phones tablets Wi-Fi video games smart meters and an increasing number of smart appliances in our homes deployment of 5G is particularly disturbing to those who have already developed sensitivity to electromagnetic pollution in addition to the hundreds of patients being assessed to Dr Bray's environmental health clinic in Toronto as many as one million people in Canada are believed to be sensitive and this number is likely to increase with increasing exposure the major symptoms include insomnia chronic fatigue chronic pain mood disorders poor short-term memory difficulty concentrating depression heart palpitations that are interpreted as anxiety symptoms also include skin problems dizziness nosebleeds elevated blood sugar and extreme cases loss of consciousness microwave frequencies are also shown in scientific studies to contribute to cancer and to damaged sperm

scientists and medical doctors across the United States and in the United Kingdom are requesting delayed deployment until testing can be conducted on long-term biological effects of 5G technology

the scientific debate about the health effects of microwave radiation is over microwave radiational levels to which we are currently exposed is adversely affecting human health of that there is no doubt the current debate is can we afford the health costs that are likely to occur with the rollout of 5G the federal government has failed to protect us from the rising levels of microwaves and now they're downloading the financial Fallout onto the provinces that pay for health costs I would encourage provincial ministers to request at the very least that the federal government adopt a precautionary approach to 5G until we better understand the consequences of this technology we need to know the true cost of 5G before we can assess its potential benefit

thank you Dr House the list of symptoms that Dr Harris and Dr Bray described are all reported and documented if you're wondering how this could have happened it was predicted Years Ago by the cell phone companies themselves on the C4 St website you can find links to the warnings published by the manufacturers of the cell phones in all of your pockets right now all of them advise you not to touch it while using it and some specifically say not to carry it in a breast pocket or near the abdomen of a pregnant woman or a teenager unfortunately those warnings are so small or buried inside the settings of your phone that most people never see them we can't pretend that the convenience of having this technology is without cost especially when the manufacturers of every cell phone are already admitting the danger in fine print the wireless Value World that Dr Havas has just described one with enough constant radiation to run a City full of driverless cars can actually be considered trespassing and a theft of a right to a healthy life when we wonder if something is harmful we look to the authorities to determine that things are safe for us 2011 the World Health Organization through the international Agency for research on cancer classified radio frequency radiation that the blanket name for the type of signal employed by cell phones cell towers and Wi-Fi to be a class 2B possible carcinogen that means there is enough firm and reliable scientific evidence to state that wireless radiation may give you cancer one of the scientists involved in reviewing that classification was Anthony Miller a professor emeritus at the University of Toronto in the past Dr Miller has worked as a national health scientist for the Canadian government and has been awarded the Medal of Honor by the international Agency for research on cancer Dr Miller is here today to bring you up to date on what scientists in this field are discovering about Wireless radiation Dr Miller Thank You Phillip to Frank as Frank said I was associated with the international Agency for research on cancer that recommended the world of the World Health Organization lists all radio frequency radiation that is the radiation that powers cell phones and Wi-Fi including Wi-Fi as a possible carcinogen the classification was efficiently designated as 2B. 2B is a list of possible costs and agendas that also includes lead and DDT that was back in 2011. this classification was based on the epidemiology and other evidence that was available then but since then as lot has changed new science has emerged both human and animal Human by new analyzes of some of the studies that were performed before including the Canadian participation in what was called interphone new updated analyzes of the studies in Sweden Sweden being one of the first countries to introduce cell phones and therefore having people with the longest exposure and they have demonstrated that the longer exposure the greater the risk but equally important there have been two very large animal carcinogenicity studies now we learned more than 20 years ago 30 years ago I was involved in some of this in Canada that we should not allow companies to introduce new chemicals without them first being tested for the possibility of carcinogenicity there is every reason why such a requirement should be placed on companies that propose to introduce new radiation which will expose all of us the two studies that have been conducted in the last 10 years but it reported only last years were won by the national toxicology program in the United States a very large animal study and another by this prestigious ramazzini Institute in Italy and both of them showed that prolonged exposure to radio frequency radiation increases the risk of cancer and indeed they also showed that the cancers are similar to some of the cancers that have been observed in humans and they showed that this sort of radiation increases the damage to our DNA and if our DNA is damaged then our risk of cancer increases substantially many scientists including myself now believe that the evidence is such that if I Arc the international Agency for research on cancer were to re-evaluate radio frequency radiation it would be placed in class one I.E a human carcinogen and governments could not possibly ignore that in fact fortunately for us the an advisory committee for the international Agency for research on cancer has recommended that radio frequency radiation be re-evaluated with high priority so we're hoping this will occur very shortly in the meantime we all must take care we all must recognize that we are being exposed to radio frequency radiation we must do our best for for mpps through uh discussions with their municipality to prevent the introduction of 5G which will only make matters worse thank you thank you Dr Miller we're witnessing an unprecedented pace of change the rise of Wireless technology in our lives we're also starting to witness a rise in a broad range of illnesses and conditions that could all be related to wireless technology prevent cancer now is a National Organization that educates Canadians about reducing our exposure to the things we know can cause cancer the group is made up of doctors and scientists and others who identify potential contributors to cancer identify Alternatives that may be safer and work to improve decision making to achieve least toxic options they have advised all levels of government across the country about these kinds of issues the chair of prevent cancer now makes yours is our next speaker Dr Sears holds a PhD in biochemical engineering she's associated with the Ottawa Hospital Research Institute she's also been a Scientific Advisor to the Canadian Human Rights Commission the national research Council and other government bodies she's here today to speak about identifying a safer approach to Communications technology serious

thank you very much Frank

so I'm a scientist and some of my colleagues in the United States and around the world are describing 5G as a giant human experiment

I have to disagree we have no evidence up front that this novel technology is safe

but think about it for a minute - if 5G roll out with millimeter wave radiation was indeed a modern scientific experiment what would that look like first we would have a justifiable hypothesis we would have reason to believe that there would be no adverse effect.

all research requires ethical approval informed consent from all participants for an experiment. a portion of the population would have to be unexposed for control purposes.

• where are we going to find that in 2019 ?

• who has certainly conducted what we call an interim analysis to Halt the experiment at the very first sign that there was a problem ?

• and finally analyzes and results would be reported publicly for discussion and implementation of logical next steps?

none of this is happening. at the same time increases in use of personal wireless devices are concurrent with a rise in brain tumors that are associated with cell phones

this most aggressive type of brain tumor is increasing in Young Americans and it has outpaced leukemia and testicular cancer . we're seeing changes. so this is accelerating.

male infertility is also on the rise while we learn that sperm and testicles are harmed by cell phones in pockets and laptops on laps

Wireless radiation affects prenatal development in animals and in humans

just as we are witnessing rapid increases in diagnoses of Developmental disorders such as autism spectrum children are much more vulnerable but we allow widespread use of Wi-Fi and wireless devices in their schools even in junior kindergarten Wireless radiation can affect basic biochemistry and affect many organs

but we don't have adequate data to make all of these connections scientifically and without the data science can't keep up with what's happening

the bottom line in Canada is that it takes decades for any new substance or technology to cause enough harm that has finally proven dangerous and eventually is curtailed it's so much wiser just to make less toxic least toxic choices to use less hazardous practices and we can do that.

our recommendation is to invest in fiber optic cables known technology through communities within buildings across Canada. fiber is already rolling out as a backbone of communications through Canadian centers but it's not extending always to the fingers and the toes and that's what we need

Communications via fiber is at least as rapid cure it's reliable and it's harmless compared with with the wireless radiation what's more signals through wire or Fiber require much less energy powering 5G technology is projected to be a major contributor to greenhouse gases at a time when the national imperative is to reduce these gases to blunt climate chaos we have enough evidence that this unprecedented technology has potential for unprecedented impacts on our health 5G is not an ethical scientific experiment but if it wasn't our an experiment our hypothesis our Theory would be that it would most likely cause significant stress on public and environmental health in Ontario we definitely can communicate better and more safely with largely fiber-based Technologies

thank you thank you Dr Sears. as you can see this is a public health warning that we take very seriously

Ontario doctors are already counting the sick and injured from exposure to wireless devices despite all this current science clinical observations and evidence Public Health Ontario has not updated its approach to wireless radiation in nine years

this is a train on which 5G is coming the public is getting sick and the government is not up to date with the science

I'm not aware of any attempt by my or related Industries to establish the safety of upcoming or even current Wireless products simply state that they meet Federal safety guidelines which I Now understand are over 40 years out of date.

I concur with Dr Sears that we can do a lot better there are scientists in 42 countries including Canada warning about 5G the doctors and scientists here today Are Not Alone

some Municipal jurisdictions in Belgium and Italy have placed a moratorium on 5G. this week the global insurance underwriter Swiss Ray published its annual forecast and highlighted 5G as an upcoming insurable Health concern globally in the next three years.

this Health crisis is avoidable because there are alternatives to wireless that are faster more secure, more reliable and much safer.

today we are recommending a four-step path to a safer future.

1. our first recommendation is that to the fullest extent possible faster internet communication be built with fiber optic wiring into and throughout buildings

2. we also recommend that if Wireless 5G is built in our neighborhoods ,the appropriate government Ministries commit to early detection of any health effects. this can be done by monitoring and Reporting through Public Health agencies giving a special consideration to children who are the most vulnerable .

3. our third recommendation is that the Ministry of Health begin discussions with doctors who are already assessing and treating illnesses related to wireless exposure. plans should be developed to educate Family Physicians across the province so they can identify the condition and help their patients

4. our fourth and final recommendation is that the minute the Ontario Ministry of Health the Ontario Ministry of the environment manage independent safety testing on wireless 5G before it is allowed to be installed in Toronto or anywhere else in the province

if Toronto was to be an early adopter of 5G, then Toronto will also be the location where illnesses first begin to rise

it would be fiscally responsible for the province to consider that all companies applying to install 5G infrastructure also be obliged to pay for any measurable increase in the cost of Health Care in Ontario especially if they first can't guarantee its safety.

since the province has to pay for Health Care it has a right to demand this technology be properly tested for safety it also has an obligation to protect people anywhere in Ontario today we are joining the hundreds of scientists and doctors from dozens of countries who say they're enough there is enough evidence to predict a rise in illness and arise in health care costs if we allow 5G to be rolled out without question a copy of today's proceedings along with scientific citations is being sent to the office of the Premier the minister of Health finance and environment finally in anticipation of the medical Symposium tomorrow at Women's College Hospital some of their patients who have attended today to provide a window into how they live with the effects of microwave radiation these individuals are the proverbial canaries in the coal mine the more sensitive Among Us whose symptoms emerge during the first round of cell towers and Wi-Fi David fancy is a professor in the department of drama at Brock University in St Catharines Ontario Melissa Chalmers is a commercial airline pilot who has been off work for several years after being injured by microwave radiation from cell towers behind her home they have come here today in case anyone wants to speak directly to someone who's living with the long-term effects of electromagnetic injury than others who suffer from the effects of Wireless radiation will also be at the Symposium tomorrow and members of the medium are very welcome to attend it is a Women's College Hospital just crossed the street at 76 Grandville it begins at 8 A.M and runs for the day for the benefit of medical practitioners the event will be live streamed via the otn the Ontario telemedicine Network at otn.ca so they can learn more about how to identify EMF susceptible individuals and manage their care properly I thank the doctors and scientists who came to speak to all of us today and I thank you for coming and listening if you have any questions please direct them through me to the speakers thank you CDC is women's college actually involved with the Symposium are they putting it on or you're renting the space set they're supporting our our Symposium they're not putting it on the environmental health clinic is putting it on and they're supporting our initiative supporting your being here yes and do you agree with everything that you heard here today as far as like the research says yes okay and so what exactly is it that you want the province to do or would the government to do

I think there needs to be a moratorium and I think that there needs to be um a space for dialogue a time to get scientists and doctors together and government officials together policy makers to discuss next steps and and to move ahead prudently rather than just roll this out without any thought about the implications and health impacts on on our public and are you um talking about cancer risk and other Associated risks because I haven't seen the actual I was you've done this your whole life I just started researching this today I haven't seen anything do on animal studies and I know we don't even report on animal studies so I should be discussing this uh tomorrow at the synthesium the human Sundays and the animal studies excited I thought I just said that I mean those studies that you're going to be talking about the um what you'll see at the at the back um is of these is the list of the citations um that I've quoted in my talk so on page 10 through them

yeah compare 14 and 5G and uh whole words institution could be you gave some a specific if we if we compare 4G and 5G one of the differences with 5G is that they're going to be using higher frequencies they're going to be using frequencies that are above six gigahertz right now that's roughly the highest we're going in our Telecom communication and because they're higher frequencies you'll be able to load a lot more data onto the wave so it'll be a faster download speed they're also going to be using lower frequencies the frequencies that we're currently being used so it's not entirely millimeter waves they're going to be using 600 megahertz and other frequencies so basically when 5G comes on board they're going to have a number of what they call small cells placed on hydropoles or lampposts and because the radiation doesn't travel very far you're going to have to have a lot of them so probably every fourth or fifth or sixth house depending on how close together they are we'll have one of these miniature antennas so basically the entire city is going to be blanketed by this additional higher frequency the millimeter wave as well as the lower frequencies that we're exposed to now so the levels of radiation to which we will be exposed will go up that much higher when it comes to millimeter radiation there are absolutely no studies that I'm aware of and and certainly I've talked to a lot of my colleagues around the world we don't know what constant exposure to low levels of millimeter waves how that's going to affect the human body we simply don't know what little evidence we have for short-term studies is that it's it's going to be harmful not only to human populations but also to animal populations particularly insects because the size of the wave is about the same size as an insect and so when you have something that's similar in size there's a resonance that happens and there's more energy absorbed and the same thing goes for our eyes our eyes are extremely sensitive to this radiation and so doctors are predicting that there's going to be an increase in problems with various problems with eyesight we don't know is it fair to sit here then and scare scare people that are potentially watching this about what the impacts are be are going to be if you actually just said we don't really know um I don't think we're scaring people I think we're trying to educate them and inform them and ultimately Empower them right now 5G is being rolled out without anyone having any say in it City councils can't tell you you know we don't want it in our city or we don't want it in this location so we've all lost our voice to speak out about this and the reason scientists and medical doctors are speaking out is because they're already dealing with the Carnage that has happened to the point of 3G and 4G and 2G prior to that we know this you mentioned how you're relatively new to this the amount of research on cancers both in humans and in animal studies is really exceptional the amount that's out there we know that it causes gliomas which is a form of brain tumor it contributes to meningiomas which is the lining of the brain it causes salivary gland tumors you know these are all things where you hold your cell phone women who put their cell phone in their bra have breast cancer immediate under the phone if they've done it for you know 10 years plus so the fact that this radiation causes cancer is really no longer a debate as Dr Miller said it's not a debate among the scientists who are doing research in this area website which I was just on looking at all the studies that they attached to it well ever since the two animal studies that Dr Miller mentioned the whole game has changed that's what was missing from the international Agency for research on cancer back in 2011 they didn't have really good animal studies they only had one very large animal study now there are three of them and they're all showing the same thing so we can continue to hide you know bury our head in this in the sand and say okay we don't know what the consequences are let's roll it out and find out and we're not going to be happy with those results so I think the warnings that we're trying to provide we're trying to wake up the population not frighten them wake them up and Empower them

respond from a federal agency's federal level because the for for the all the regulations and because of the 5K will be across the country and all over the world so with the upcoming Federal elections so uh did you approach uh different uh parties to release this issue we have worked for the last five years at the federal level met with over 50 MPS have requested to meet with all four different Ministers of Health uh have met with three of the director generals that have been in their job over the last five years and nobody is wants to talk about this uh they're just ingrained in the current uh science or sorry not the current they're ingrained in science from 2006 or 2007 they brought out an updated 2015 based on 2013 science and they just will not will not even take any meanings to allow us to debate we've invited them to sessions we've offered to have experts like you're seeing today from Canada and around the world to present uh I mentioned the Parliamentary health committee we were successful in getting that Federal committee uh to spend three of their sessions on uh likely radiation they came out with a report and the minister just based said thanks but that's uh we're comfortable with everything you are so we've we've tried we will continue to Advocate and we will continue to educate but it's it's that we have not been successful today date yet in finding a champion at the federal level I'm sad to say that but it's the truth of the matter so we are for whatever reason El Canada is stuck in the science from the 1960s and 70s and not accepting any of the current technology and science that's peer reviewed thousands of peer-reviewed published research that shows harm well below the federal guideline levels there was a message for general public because this information is not being well known the public had no idea actually so uh for the educate general public at least gave them some information what's your suggestions

we have put together a set of safety tips that's on our website c4st.org basically the message is really two things first of all distance is your friend so keep the technology as far away as you possibly can so never hold it against your head don't put it against your body second thing is when you are using a wireless device of any sort minimize the time that you're using it so if you're going to watch a movie download the movie put the device in airplane mode and watch it so and then when you're sleeping at night turn off all the technology in your house put your Wi-Fi router on a timer so that when you're sleeping your body is in a state of rest and repair so that you can because you are bombarded we are bombarded everywhere we go so you know so while you're at least sleeping have every family member be in a state of of of of repair and rest and by turning off all the Wi-Fi uh turning this off we'll get it out of the bedroom Dr B I know you've got other recommendations too for patients information needs to be uh available to all the children in the schools to the students at universities we have to teach them to practice what we preach and um and we have to change the infrastructure of the way institutions are run um with regards to wireless technology and it's not hard to fix the problem it's just a matter of becoming more Savvy and knowledgeable about the the impacts and how to reduce exposures this is not this is not rocket science this is called wiring fiber optics it's really not rocket science also compare with the United States do they pay more attention of the house risk compared with Canada no at the federal level the the FCC the Federal Communications Commission has taken the same stance uh that Healthcare has taken we are seeing pockets of school districts in the U.S that are really limiting the Wi-Fi in schools we are seeing some counties that have taken some initiatives to prevent the Slowdown of 5G

as I mentioned some counties in Europe are doing that but at the national level other than France it's probably the most aggressive in terms of reducing Wi-Fi in schools and and Belgium restricts the marketing of cell phones to Children

In Taiwan it's illegal to give a a two-year-old child a tablet or a cell phone

so there are some countries that are doing some things

but the answer question specifically the US and Canada unfortunately are pretty aligned on this issue but you know Canada has taken steps I probably saw Ontario the process go back I've taken things like pesticides where we've gone out ahead of the federal government, we've gone out ahead of the U.S

and so we're seeing is an opportunity now especially as an Ontario taxpayer we are paying the brunt we will pay the brunt of the increasing health effects so we think there's an opportunity for Ontario to step forward and say look there's a fiscal opportunity here plus there's a tremendous opportunity to improve ontarians health going forward

all right so thank you for your time and thank you again for taking your time out of your schedules to join us thank you

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